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« on: May 20, 2010, 02:38:44 PM »

Curious as to whats happening. I read all the stuff but im wondering if anyones kept up with it. obviously he's still denying it... is he taking legal actions? has he said anything else?
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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2010, 02:40:41 PM »

hes bout to attempt to sue solace he said so him self
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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2010, 02:42:21 PM »

lol talk to him day it happen he was mad or angry he was me  and my attorneys and we'll see what happens
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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2010, 02:43:11 PM »

interesting....

i thought it could go 3 ways:

he sues solace because because the website is false

he doesnt sue solace because the website is true

he sues solace because the website is true but everything in his life is turning to shit and this is the only action hes got left.
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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2010, 02:49:25 PM »

quote from hunter im going to take a step back from the gaming world and handle some shit irl...

me i heard a nigga was nerd raging on u..

ya my shit got hacked ect(true or false iono) but gna take legal actions

ya but but Canada and us can he take it to the law? but ya slander is what ill give him
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« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2010, 03:18:41 PM »

I thought the technical definition of slander is that it is false.
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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2010, 03:23:10 PM »

I'm curious too, because the evidence seems really damning. Legal shit is interesting. Has he made any defense or any attempt to discredit what he's up against? From what I can tell, he hasn't, all he said on some forum was something like "Most of this is untrue."

I think he could clear his name by doing this:

Get a log of account activity (via IP monitoring) from his gmail. Post his IP (or what his old IP was, or w/e.) Demonstrate that he was not logged in, or rather, that someone besides he and Solace was logged in a lot to that Gmail account (and not just HIM on a different computer/network). If he can't do this, all we can assume is that it definitely is him, which it already looks like.
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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2010, 03:35:35 PM »

I thought the technical definition of slander is that it is false.


libel 1) n. to publish in print (including pictures), writing or broadcast through radio, television or film, an untruth about another which will do harm to that person or his/her reputation, by tending to bring the target into ridicule, hatred, scorn or contempt of others.

From http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/libel

I could see Hunter's lawyer going like-

Hunter's lawyer: While some of the information published publicly on this page is true, information x y and z is false or otherwise unprovable, yet the publisher claims it is true and/or does not knowledge that it is merely speculation

"To determine whether a statement implies a factual assertion, courts examine the totality of the circumstances in which it was made. First, they look at the statement in its broad context, which includes the general tenor of the entire work, the subject of the statements, the setting, and the format of the work. Next they turn to the specific context and content of the statements, analyzing the extent of figurative or hyperbolic language used and the reasonable expectations of the audience in that particular situation. Finally, they inquire whether the statement itself is sufficiently factual to be susceptible of being proved true or false."

Maybe it is technically libel because regardless of whether or not it is true, it is unconfirmed by proper authorizes thereby forcing it to be speculation? Either way, I don't see Solace getting in trouble. He's in Canada. Swisscrushalotz is in Canada. Canada is just some crazy bitches playing hockey and shit talking, what's anyone gonna do about it?
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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2010, 03:43:08 PM »

at kana true or not he can claim solace hack his comp since he gave solace access to his server...and also emails were sent to all his friends and family...maybe even bosses ect. so ya man slander is there
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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2010, 03:51:06 PM »

ALSO

Is the person who wrote it responsible for the libel, or the person who sent it to Hunter's contacts, or the people who hosted it on their computers/websites, or the hosting companies themselves? They're not all the same people. I think the libel case is pretty weak.

Hacking on the other hand.. If someone was originally given the l/p, and never explicitly told to "never log in again," could it be hacking? I wanna see some definitions/past court rulings about that kinda thing, if any exist.
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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2010, 03:55:20 PM »

well lucky i mean solace was parading it around ... u have to put a face to the crime and only face is solace  regaurdless of his action. and linking ips and she like that is childs play to a hacker
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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2010, 04:02:09 PM »

Solace voilated the Electronic Communications Privacy Act when he accessed hunter's emails. The actual installing of the keylogger is legal, but the way it was used is most likely illegal (case by case basis).
Although I'm unsure of what kind of legal actions can be taken against international parties.
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« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2010, 04:10:12 PM »

"In Canada, it is usually treated as an illegal act, under current privacy legislation. There are exemptions, such as an employer monitoring the content of e-mails and external IP addresses that employees are in communication with.

This is done for both corporate security and for monitoring activities that violate the law or any rules the employer has set on computer use (e.g., downloading pornography, downloading music files on which copyright fees have not been paid, running a personal business from work). E-mail traffic can be monitored for this purpose, but the manner in which the contents of the e-mail are disseminated must adhere to privacy legislation. A copy of the e-mail can be provided to the individual's superior, who can present it to the employee or use it in a disciplinary action. On the other hand, posting it on the bulletin board would be a violation of the individual's privacy.

These restrictions can include reading someone's e-mail, if their computer is left unattended. An individual could use this as an excuse to prevent their partner from reading their e-mail, but I think that would pretty much signal an end to the relationship in most cases. However, if one person insists on this to protect their partner from reprisals, it might not be a bad idea (e.g., a reporter investigating a criminal organization)."
http://www.lexum.umontreal.ca/csc-scc/en/index.html

He also violated Canadian law. Even if he legally obtained the emails, posting them on the internet for everyone to see is definantly illegal.
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« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2010, 04:13:08 PM »

So since solace is in Canada which I didn't know until now, nothing is going to happen.

1. US government does not care enough about a slander/invasion of privacy case to request for Canada to extradite one of their citizens for investigation,

2. especially if this is going to be a case handled in civil court. Since solace isn't even going to serve jailtime for this, good luck to hunter to get the government to do anything about anything regarding this since the way the government sees it, it is just petty revenge.

If hunter was mildly important/powerful relative to the world, he might be able to do something, but I don't think that is the case.

Imo, if I was hunter and shit really did hit the fan, I would just take a vacation to canada and murder solace in his basement then head back home to start from scratch after finishing my week checking out the babes in montreal. But that's just me.
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« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2010, 04:14:16 PM »

Well the email account was shared between multiple people...
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« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2010, 04:43:22 PM »

Well the email account was shared between multiple people...

what the fuck does this have to do with anything.
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« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2010, 04:45:21 PM »

Well the email account was shared between multiple people...

unless they know who these ppl are solace is the face .... pretty sure i stated this...and i said the same think ben if it were me ill murk him the one time he came out his basement... he said i got liike 12 dogs and dad has a pistol or sumthing along the lines.

but man solace told me a month ahead atime lol i was stop with nerd rage man...even tho ( not offense hunter) might have been a scum bag to most he handled his business for the most part..even if not like he is a big reason dota is big ...other than that chinese event he gave out mis prizes to most i know young recieve a shit load from him...he pick up anti hack created a league on ggc and bnet ...attempt vouch league that went on for a month....generated good enuff forums.

but ya man

hunter was well enuff in the gaming business for it to matter to ppl...the post his shit in every league n shit.. so ... ya hunter handle business

like if matd was watching child porn or what not who the fuck with care
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« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2010, 06:15:26 PM »

fuck the law


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« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2010, 06:18:52 PM »

dee fanime not thise weekend next
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« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2010, 06:24:23 PM »

hes bout to attempt to sue solace he said so him self

words and actions are two different things.

interesting....

i thought it could go 3 ways:

he sues solace because because the website is false

he doesnt sue solace because the website is true

he sues solace because the website is true but everything in his life is turning to shit and this is the only action hes got left.

the third one. i confirmed the age of the girl along with everything else that could be in question. So did i hack hotmail now hunter? LOL

quote from hunter im going to take a step back from the gaming world and handle some shit irl...

me i heard a nigga was nerd raging on u..

ya my shit got hacked ect(true or false iono) but gna take legal actions

ya but but Canada and us can he take it to the law? but ya slander is what ill give him

if he sues for slander he would lose the case, it wouldn't even go to court it would simply get thrown out in the short little hearing where they show if there is reasonable evidence to actually make a case.

at kana true or not he can claim solace hack his comp since he gave solace access to his server...and also emails were sent to all his friends and family...maybe even bosses ect. so ya man slander is there

i have proof that would make any accusations of hacking the server voided if not make enough doubt in a judges mind to throw that out the door.

ALSO

Is the person who wrote it responsible for the libel, or the person who sent it to Hunter's contacts, or the people who hosted it on their computers/websites, or the hosting companies themselves? They're not all the same people. I think the libel case is pretty weak.

Hacking on the other hand.. If someone was originally given the l/p, and never explicitly told to "never log in again," could it be hacking? I wanna see some definitions/past court rulings about that kinda thing, if any exist.

no you are responsible for changing that password and physically denying that person access again lol... you think when people get fired from some job "lets go with working for the FBI" and you had access to the database... you really think they would just leave your password/account there? lol... and no the worst they can do is shut down the hosting account.

at kana true or not he can claim solace hack his comp since he gave solace access to his server...and also emails were sent to all his friends and family...maybe even bosses ect. so ya man slander is there

its not slander unless he proves its fake... defamation maybe if a judge feels its unjust to notifty the community of where the crime is being commited. the fact hes using viets picture should be able to throw out defamation since he is part of the community of which was notified. he also has to prove "I" sent all of those emails not someone else the sole fact of numeroues peopel involved makes that a gigiantic question who did what when and where. the only thing i admit to doing is obtaining the evidence through having given access to his server and i gurantee with a email i have of him stating i hacked his server over many years and planting evidence will prove hes full of shit and destroy what credibility he has left in the court room.

Solace voilated the Electronic Communications Privacy Act when he accessed hunter's emails. The actual installing of the keylogger is legal, but the way it was used is most likely illegal (case by case basis).
Although I'm unsure of what kind of legal actions can be taken against international parties.

admin rights to the computer allows me to install software. a keylogger is a piece of software. he also had his email logged in numerous times previously in the past. also can prove this Smiley

Solace voilated the Electronic Communications Privacy Act when he accessed hunter's emails. The actual installing of the keylogger is legal, but the way it was used is most likely illegal (case by case basis).
Although I'm unsure of what kind of legal actions can be taken against international parties.

i have the initial evidence which gave me grounds to use it in the way i did dont you worry Smiley

He also violated Canadian law. Even if he legally obtained the emails, posting them on the internet for everyone to see is definantly illegal.

who said i posted it? i only claim to have gained the data for the article everything else that happen could have been done without my knowledge being as others hosted the content themselves... tas is a true g heh.


So since solace is in Canada which I didn't know until now, nothing is going to happen.

1. US government does not care enough about a slander/invasion of privacy case to request for Canada to extradite one of their citizens for investigation,

2. especially if this is going to be a case handled in civil court. Since solace isn't even going to serve jailtime for this, good luck to hunter to get the government to do anything about anything regarding this since the way the government sees it, it is just petty revenge.

If hunter was mildly important/powerful relative to the world, he might be able to do something, but I don't think that is the case.

Imo, if I was hunter and shit really did hit the fan, I would just take a vacation to canada and murder solace in his basement then head back home to start from scratch after finishing my week checking out the babes in montreal. But that's just me.

somewhat accurate cept east canadians are disgusting. cetnral is still alright but if u go too far east u might want to kill urself.

Well the email account was shared between multiple people...

unless they know who these ppl are solace is the face .... pretty sure i stated this...and i said the same think ben if it were me ill murk him the one time he came out his basement... he said i got liike 12 dogs and dad has a pistol or sumthing along the lines.

but man solace told me a month ahead atime lol i was stop with nerd rage man...even tho ( not offense hunter) might have been a scum bag to most he handled his business for the most part..even if not like he is a big reason dota is big ...other than that chinese event he gave out mis prizes to most i know young recieve a shit load from him...he pick up anti hack created a league on ggc and bnet ...attempt vouch league that went on for a month....generated good enuff forums.

but ya man

hunter was well enuff in the gaming business for it to matter to ppl...the post his shit in every league n shit.. so ... ya hunter handle business

like if matd was watching child porn or what not who the fuck with care

bruce i knew about sway a long time ago you think i cared? nope... when someone else brought the child porn to my attention then yea that crosses some lines which should not be crossed. esp when your using a fellow gamers picture for the cause... how low can some people go is beyond me.
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